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bigbicepguy
02-16-2009, 12:09 AM
I thought I'd share our Valentine's Day design. Everyone who saw them when we were out and about thought they were great. They look so much better in real life. These pictures do not do them justice. Anyway enjoy the pics as we continue to suffer the effects of the obama recession, but fear not because of him it will get far worse before it gets better. His words not mine. I guess that's the change he was referring to.
I guess his next move will be to further clobber economic growth with his policies on carbon dioxide taxation. Gee woudlnt the world be so much better off if we could just rid it of this "new" pollutant carbon dioxide. Then i guess a non-carbon form of life that processes silicon will then inhabit the planet. perhaps some other liquid will also form the oceans as well. at least we will rid the planet of these humans that are obviously causing all these issues with the climate and environment.
jchimpo
02-16-2009, 01:50 AM
Nice nails, thanks for sharing...
Personally I think politics shouldn't be on this board. Since you posted you obviously want a response. I'm relatively indifferent to Obama personally, I think he'll be an alright president but I'm not expecting much more than that. However if you're going to make political statements at least try to be sort of honest. This current recession didn't start with Obama. According to the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia it started in April 2008. Well before President Obama took office...
Also fyi water isn't made of carbon dioxide, it's hydrogen and oxygen.
bigbicepguy
02-16-2009, 08:10 AM
Nice nails, thanks for sharing...
Personally I think politics shouldn't be on this board. Since you posted you obviously want a response. I'm relatively indifferent to Obama personally, I think he'll be an alright president but I'm not expecting much more than that. However if you're going to make political statements at least try to be sort of honest. This current recession didn't start with Obama. According to the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia it started in April 2008. Well before President Obama took office...
Also fyi water isn't made of carbon dioxide, it's hydrogen and oxygen.
Apparently my sarcasm was lost on you. FYI, Obama's election has caused a deepening of the recession, e.g., stock market is down over 20% since his election due to a lack of confidence in his and his admin's ability to do anything effective. However, they seem to be very effective at spending and wasting taxpayer dollars. Also his relentless campaign telling us how bad things are has created diminished levels of consumer confidence, and as you know since you are obviously brilliant 2/3's of our economy is consumer based.
finally, i was aware that water is H2O. what I was being sarcastic about was the need for a non-carbon based life form to need something other then water.
spinnie
02-16-2009, 10:06 AM
BBG,
Honestly, if McCain was elected you think we would have been out of this mess 4 weeks into his presidency? If so then you didn't notice that well before Obama took office the trajectory of the economy was nosediving. What I find even more baffling is that you are some how pissed at Obama when Bush had 8 years and left this on Obamas plate. But than again, why be mad at Bush, be mad at Obama because he can't fix Bushes mess in 4 weeks. Isn't that a bit odd? And a reminder the economy was tanking BEFORE Obama stepped into office.
And on Bushes watch, when the sh*t hit the fan around October, Bush had 10 weeks to make it right, but it kept going down. No comment on that? Or the 700 billion Bushes team put into TARP. Funny again, how Bush spends and spends and its cool....but Obama spends its pork and misspent funds.
But lets talk facts. Hard cold numbers to make this pretty simple.
Who have been two Presidents that have spent the most? Regan and Bush. Oh yes the fiscally "responsible" republicans, talk the talk but don't walk the walk. And some how still people such as yourself think that Democrats are tax and spend. But if that is the case why is it that Regan and Bush both oversaw the largest expansion of government spending. This isn't me making things up, its facts.
Now strip out your feelings. This is fact. I know I know you will make all kinds of excuses for Bush, 9/11, Bushes wars, tax cuts, but you will make excuses for Bush right and left, but Obama inherits a HUGE problem, and you are angry at him. Obama didn't create this no matter how much you want to lay it at his feet.
And its pretty easy to find all kinds of info on Bushes reckless spending and Regan determination to outspend the Russians that help economically weaken them, but weaken the US as well. Yes Regan and Bush saw the largest governmental increases for adjusted dollars period.
Here are some links to help. Just numbers. Take a look.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3750
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article570387.ece
This is one of my favorite graphs....
http://www.intelligentguess.com/blog/2007/04/15/usa-fiscal-deficit-as-a-percentage-of-gdp-under-the-recent-four-presidencies-since-1980/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070503141100AAuQ5te
And do you recall that Clinton had a balanced budge AND a surplus? I am sure you don't. Or you will some how minimize that fact, or want to talk about Monica, but think about it. The numbers show, that Regan and Bush are spenders. But they are suppose to be the party that is fiscally responsible. Again, talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
(for the sake of disclosure there are some who question the surplus or its size, but the facts are for 3 years Clinton paid DOWN the national debt, even if you want to split hairs about the surplus, but neither Bush nor Regan did paid down the debt, they only increased it)
But I ask sit back, read the facts and don't think republican or democrat, just look at the info out there and see who is wiser with money. You might be surprised.
And a small aside. You are angry that Obama is saying that the situation is dire. So you are mad he is being honest about the situation. But I bet if Obama was saying things are fine you would complain he isn't being honest. I personally would rather have the truth then have someone blow sunshine up my ass, or piss on my leg and tell me its raining.
And just food for thought, as republicans scream and yell about nationalization is socialism, who is saying we have to think about nationalizing the banks? None other then Lindsey Graham (R-SC)??!!! While you have Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Sen. Schumer (D-NY) both opposing it. Wow!!!! Don't get me wrong. I love a lot of what the republicans say they stand for but they just don't do it.
Check it out for yourself....http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aQ1L29.emkg0&refer=home
Now for full disclosure. First the sites I grabbed are fairly neutral sites. Libertarian for the Cato Institute, Bloomberg, well conservative and the others aren't from any hard leaning sites.
I am glad Obama won, sort of. I think ANY one who won this round is destined to be a one term president because of how badly Bush left things. I think some bail out might be appropriate but I am not happy with the stimulus. But unless it was all tax cuts you won't find most republicans happy with it, but that doesn't work either. I think any stimulus creates a false bottom and we will only pay for it later. I would like to see nothing done. Hit the bottom, let the crops die, let the strong ones grow again. But I am also 100% certain that if Obama, or if it was McCain for that fact, did nothing we would be hearing yelling and screaming that they are fiddling while Rome burned.
We are in uncharted territory. No one really knows the best path. We have some guesses, but we lived too long on over extending ourselves and living beyond our means and now its time to pay the piper.
And if you got this far, I am truly impressed. I have been having a lot on my plate lately and haven't had a chance to do much in the way of updates, I am sorry about that. When the economy tanked it took a lot of my stability as well, but I hope to have new images up soon.
For those that like voluptuous women I have something for you. And one is VERY voluptuous. Longer than average nails, and very nice but they aren't in the league of making a legend but I hope to have new stuff soon.
bigbicepguy
02-16-2009, 10:54 AM
that democratics created and encouraged policies that resulted in the sub prime mortgage fiasco. barney franks and chris dodd refused to put proper oversight on fannie and freddie. maxine waters stated in hearings that because of the leadership of franklin raines fannie was on solid financial ground and 100% no down payment mortgages were making home ownership affordable to those without financial means. the community reinvestment was an unfunded govt entitlement progam that is now being funded through the loss (transfer) of significant wealth from stock market declines and now newly funded govt deficit spending.
as for obama, he is no longer a state senator from illinois and needs to choose his words carefully. saying things are the worst they've been since the great depression and could become a catastrophe is grossly irresponsible. things were far worse in 1980-81 when unemployment was double digits, interest rates were 20% and inflation was out of control. why cant you give regan credit for solving that economic problem. he did it with tax cuts, not huge increases in govt entitlement programs.
by the way, giving money to people who do not pay taxes is not a tax cut. ive always thought of that as welfare.
spinnie
02-16-2009, 11:30 AM
First you totally ignored the fact that I was making.
And if you think Maxine Waters and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are responsible all I can say is you nee to broaden whoever you are listening too.
Freddie and Fannie by no means helped the situation but that is only a small portion of the problem. Or are the responsible for Detriots mess as well?
Have you hear of Phil Gramm? Do you know anything about him and his desire for deregulation?
"So you have a background...William Philip Gramm (born July 8, 1942, in Fort Benning, Georgia, USA) is an American politician who served as a Democratic Congressman (1978–1983), a Republican Congressman (1983–1985) and a Republican Senator from Texas (1985–2002). Most recently, until July 18, 2008, he was a senior economic adviser to John McCain's presidential campaign and he fought for deregulation and is perhaps the most culpable with Greenspan and Bush.
As chairman of the Senate Banking Committee from 1995 through 2000, Gramm was Washington's most prominent and outspoken champion of financial deregulation. He played a leading role in writing and pushing through Congress the 1999 repeal of the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial banks from Wall Street. He also inserted a key provision into the 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act that exempted over-the-counter derivatives like credit-default swaps from regulation by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Credit-default swaps took down AIG, which has cost the U.S. $150 billion thus far."
And if you don't know about credit default swaps then you don't know what has happened. Freddie and Fannie are a small piece of the pie dude.
Look at the big picture.
The SEC dropped the ball and do you know what....the President appoints the head of the SEC. In other words Bush appointed an incompetent to run the SEC, Chris Cox.
Your usual suspects republicans like to point at didn't make Countrywide take to creating exotic and bizarre mortgages, but Phil Gramms hand in deregulation made it possible for them to be sold to the public.
Waters, Frank, Dodd, didn't make Citigroup buy up smaller companies and help destroy the banking regulations.
You really need to do more research.. Not one place of reading but conservatives, liberals and in between if you want to sort out the facts, because they lie inbetween what they all will tell you.
I would bet you didn't go to a single link I posted, because you are convinced you know. But I can tell you are missing alot of the info. And I am not saying I am the font of all knowledge but I get info from all sides and distill it because you need different views.
an interesting read is here..
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html
And its "25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis" and not surprisingly Dodd, Waters, and Frank isn't on the list because they were small in this. They are far from powerbrokers in comparison to these players. And you will be happy to know that Clinton let too much go by deregulations as well, and its noted.
Didn't you read or see that Regan increased the government only second to Bush? So you are for bigger government if a republican does it, but not a democrat? Or you just want bigger government in general?
I would argue that it wasn't really the tax cuts that saved us with Reagan plan BUT lowering of the prime interest rate. THAT is what spurred investment. Not the tax cuts. And if you haven't noticed Bush and Paulson cut the rate to ZERO, so it can't go any lower. These are very different times, and different problems and I and I am sure Obama are very sorry that he didn't straighten it out in 4 weeks, but think you could give him a month or two more before you pass judgement? Like I said I am not happy with the Stimulus Bill on many fronts but tax cuts aren't going to do it. I just don't believe it. Bush had 2 tax cuts and look where we are. So we have just recently Bush do EXACTLY what you think Obama should do, tax cuts and government checks sent out......it didn't work. Sorry. And I really am sorry it didn't.
I am not sure about your last line who you are talking about. But so many republicans use that logic to those that are working and pay taxes in each and every pay check. There are not really as many people as you would like to think who do absolutely nothing and get a check.
In summary, Dodd, Waters and Frank, are nice targets for many reasons but you are way off if that is where you want to lie the blame. Do more research, and look at the facts and you will see. Its not nearly as neat and tidy as some would like to think.
misco
02-16-2009, 12:40 PM
oh by the way i think your babe's nails look great!
spinnie
02-16-2009, 12:47 PM
Excellent nails, lol............
bigbicepguy
02-16-2009, 02:51 PM
And if you don't know about credit default swaps then you don't know what has happened. Freddie and Fannie are a small piece of the pie dude.
Yes dude i do know what a credit default swap is. the problem isnt that there aren't enough regulations there are 100,000 pages of banking regulations. Do we need 200,000 pages. the SEC missed the boat on maddof no doubt, the ratings agencies missed the boat on assessing credit quality of sub-prime bonds, wall street clearly took advantage of the push washington put on "affordable housing and loans" much of which took place during the clinton years.
but we'll have to agree to disagree
matt uk
02-16-2009, 05:13 PM
I can't help but smile at this thread....
How you can criticise Obama when he's only been in power a few weeks is just beyond me!
The American way of life HAS to change - the days of gas-guzzling cars, rampant consumerism, and invading countries without UN backing needs to stop, and Obama is the man to do it.
Bush was a disgrace - he was a laughing stock on this side of the Atlantic (as well as around the world) and dragged your country's name through the mud. Just be glad you've got an intelligent, articulate leader to take you through what will be one of the most difficult periods in world history.
bigbicepguy
02-16-2009, 06:07 PM
I can't help but smile at this thread....
How you can criticise Obama when he's only been in power a few weeks is just beyond me!
The American way of life HAS to change - the days of gas-guzzling cars, rampant consumerism, and invading countries without UN backing needs to stop, and Obama is the man to do it.
Bush was a disgrace - he was a laughing stock on this side of the Atlantic (as well as around the world) and dragged your country's name through the mud. Just be glad you've got an intelligent, articulate leader to take you through what will be one of the most difficult periods in world history.
The question is how you can not criticize the bama. he's been in office only a month but has done so much damage. Because of him the US taxpayer is
1) now providing money to overseas abortion clinics,
2) has undertaken the biggest govt spending entitlement program ever,
3) has reduced security and the war on terror via the closing of guantanomo amongst other exec orders,
4) has appointed numerous tax cheats to his cabinet,
5) has reneged on every promise he made regarding integrity and transparency in the various appointments of cabinet members and advisers, not to mention the trillion dollar "stimulus" bill
but at least the enemies of the free world are having a laugh on the stupidity of the american population voting such an inexperienced, incompetent, marxist to the most powerful office in the world. his election makes an argument for why you should be literate as a requirement to vote. what is so articulate about someone who constantly tells us how we should expect the worse and it will get far worse. where the hell is his leadership? that is irresponsible!
by the way, when are they going to declare Islam the official religion in the UK?
spinnie
02-16-2009, 08:23 PM
The money isn't for abortion clinics. They clinics can now say abortion is an option.
Yes he did take the largest bail out in history. But your buddy Bush what would he have done? something close, remember TARP? Oh of course not. Its all about what Obama has spent, not what Bush spent or how he helped put us in this position.
Sure closing Gitmo has all the terrorists excited!! What are you talking about? That is like saying closing Leavenworth we are going to be more in danger of criminals. There are others options and other places to keep terrorists but to put them in forever limbo is a ridiculous option. Not to be able to confront charges against yourself, is against one of the founding principles of this land.
It is a shame that there are tax cheats gotten approval but I will take that over Alberto Gonzalous any day.
Wow its irresponsible to tell the truth? That explains why you enjoyed the Bush years and the erosion of civil liberties. And saddling us with this multi-trilion dollar problem.
BigBicep guy wants to complain about the bail out and yet, and yet Bush and Reagan was the epitome of big spending in government, and yet that is just brush aside. The numbers are there, but just as he is blind to it because it isn't convenient to look at. And still republicans can somehow hold the mantle of being fiscally responsible, and I am not sure how.
If Obama lacks leadership how did he manage to win the presidency? Coming from essentially nowhere? And again, you would rather have him tell you everything is ok. Mission Accomplished, Heck of a job Brownie........lets ignore the facts it worked so well for Bush didn't it?
" "affordable housing and loans" much of which took place during the clinton years."......the funny thing is, you are serious and you believe this. But of course it took 8 years for it to be a problem?? So this was royally screwed by Clinton, but it just took 8 years to manifest itself? All of a sudden we couldn't make the payments? So if Clinton made this so horrible, why didn't the republicans do anything with their rubber stamp house and congress for 6 years?
You feel free to disagree, but look at the numbers. And you will see that Bush was reckless with spending. He was far from alone and many are culpable as well, but its funny how you can't keep your argument straight. Before it was Dodd, Waters, and Frank, now its Clinton that is responsible, but not one republican. Not one I have heard you say is wrong or an issue so it tells me you think republican good, democrat bad. And that tells me you don't think beyond labels and whatever your radio commentator or conservative paper is telling you. Don't dare think!
You can fight it but the world wide opinion is, and many Americans is that Bush was a disgrace. I for one feel he was, and history will bear that out.
The only president to have a pre-emptive strike on a country that didn't do anything against us. On failed and trumped up intelligence. The only president to have tax cuts during the time of war. The only president that condones torture behind the scenes but says we don't torture....but oh wait, you prefer half truths as that is leadership, not the facts. Warrentless wiretapping, even though we have in place a court specifically for that. To hell with the laws. If Bush was so confident about his stand why didn't he just state the Geneva Convention doesn't hold us to its articles any more? Warrentless wiretapping, even though we have in place a court specifically for that. To hell with the laws.
Spectator
02-16-2009, 08:57 PM
SPinnie you are very smart but you are holding water for Obama.
Your grasp of the facts is wide, but when you say "warrantless wirtetapping" for example, you are leaving out the pertinent adjective of "Foreign." We never needed wiretaps to listen in on incoming foreign calls to US Citizens. Never. In anycase, 'Bama is keeping that in place.
You are absolutely right about the repeal of Glass-Steagall during the Republican congess of 1999, but you fail to mention the numerous blocked attempts by Democrats to reform Fannie/Freddie. Some of the most ardent backers of the repeal were democrats as well. Heck, Clinton's Treasury Secretary Rubin, ended making about 300 million over the course of years with CitiBank.
I find it funny that when FDR went on a goverment spending spree we at least built dams, roads, courthouses, and libraries and such. The approximate amount of shovel ready development is about 4-5% of the stimulus package designed by Pelosi-Reid-Obama.
You mentioned that if Obama lacks leadership, how'd he win? Well I think if you have a failing economy (which is a large extent of Bush's fault), and the hopeless ex-treasury secretary Paulson saying the sky is falling, and the candidate who is admired and adored by 90% of the media, I'd be surprised if he didn't win. McCain was a doofus, too. The surprising thing is Obama only got 52% of the vote. Not a crushing win.
Bama has to prove he can do the job, he has a hell of a lot of pieces to pick up, I just think the Stimulus package is a completely wrong way about it.
I support Obama, he's my President. But I certainly am entitled to criticise his bad policies, or else I would not be a patriot.
Joker is displeased with this thread
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jchimpo
02-17-2009, 07:33 AM
Ok, so I'm going to try to make a larger point here and ask a question that actually really bothers me, please bear with me.
I've been reading these posts and from Republicans I see an almost complete divorce from reality, you've constructed this web of "facts" to insulate yourselves from the truth.
The truth in this case being simply unless you're rich then governments run by Democrats are better for you. If you look at income growth over the years, unless you're above the top 95th percentile you do better with a Democratic administration in power. Now here is the thing obviously the majority of Republican voters aren't in the top 95th percentile, or they'd never have the numbers to win. So, why do you guys consistently vote against your own economic self interest?
I know you'll immediately post some crap about so and so is a crook or so and so is responsible for x y or z. But seriously all politicians are slimy bastards and we all already know this. If you drop the names, and specific events, policies etc.. and just look at overall trends and numbers the picture becomes very clear.
If you're curious about where I'm getting this from, here is a paper by a guy at Princeton http://www.princeton.edu/~bartels/income.pdf. I'm sure you'll say he's biased but other people have looked at the same data and reached similar conclusions. If you really care enough you can run the numbers yourself. Personally, I think he has enough letters behind his name for me to trust him.
Now I know most of the people on this board are wondering why this is even being discussed here. But you'll notice it's always the other side that opens it up, and personally it drives me crazy because I just don't understand these people at all. So help me out, explain why you consistently act against your own self interest by supporting and voting for Republicans.
PS. Here is a nice little graph in case you're not big readers...
http://www.visualizingeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/bartels-income.gif
SkRaTcH
02-17-2009, 08:49 AM
Here we go again....
Dude's in office, get over it.
Get behind him like we had to get behind king phuckup, GWBush.....Or move to Canada, ED will kick it with you.
Do you not see???
Nobody cares to make a comment about your 'babe's' beautiful nails because your bitterness won't allow you to keep your mouth shut for a second.
Politics does not keep this board alive, nails do.
I think we all agree your posts would rock if you just posted the pics, and (type) nothing else.....
why don't you just hold on to your money and let the rest of us burn in Obamahell??
Great pics by the way.
I'm out.
subleon
02-17-2009, 10:13 AM
The question is how you can not criticize the bama. he's been in office only a month but has done so much damage. Because of him the US taxpayer is
1) now providing money to overseas abortion clinics,
2) has undertaken the biggest govt spending entitlement program ever,
3) has reduced security and the war on terror via the closing of guantanomo amongst other exec orders,
4) has appointed numerous tax cheats to his cabinet,
5) has reneged on every promise he made regarding integrity and transparency in the various appointments of cabinet members and advisers, not to mention the trillion dollar "stimulus" bill
but at least the enemies of the free world are having a laugh on the stupidity of the american population voting such an inexperienced, incompetent, marxist to the most powerful office in the world. his election makes an argument for why you should be literate as a requirement to vote. what is so articulate about someone who constantly tells us how we should expect the worse and it will get far worse. where the hell is his leadership? that is irresponsible!
by the way, when are they going to declare Islam the official religion in the UK?
I agree with everything you said except the war on terror.When you have time,watch at least one of these vids on youtube or google video.These are very good and informative vids.
"Loose change final cut","Terror Storm","911 rise of the police state","Freedom to Fascism".
If you watch any of those those vids believe me ,you wont regret it.I suggest you watch all of them if you can cause they all have great info.
As far as the Guantanamo bay facility.Even if he does close it.It does`nt matter cause there is a lot of others in other countries.That executive order is just a PR stunt.
And to expand on what you said. there`s a gun bill in congress where if passed, the Attorney General would be able to ban any gun they want.
http://www.infowars.com/proposed-law-may-allow-obama-ag-holder-to-ban-guns-at-will/
There`s also a bill in congress if passed to Authorize the use of Fema Concentration camps on the American people.
http://www.infowars.com/new-legislation-authorizes-fema-camps-in-us/
bigbicepguy
02-17-2009, 11:57 AM
So help me out, explain why you consistently act against your own self interest by supporting and voting for Republicans.
I am voting for my economic self interest and that of the country. Additionally, this "democratic" administration is like none other regarding their socialistic big govt entitlement agenda. Just look at the stock market and you will see how the investment community has little or no confidence in the people in washington and their so called "stimulus" bill
bulldogg
02-17-2009, 07:30 PM
Politics does not keep this board alive, nails do.
There are LOTS of places where you can argue over this. Not here, OK?
Nobody's going to change anybody's mind (OK, maybe I'd listen to Tigressa, or Rebs, or . . .)
We don't even agree on nails all the time.
Take it outside.
nobody is "right." If we had all the answers then we wouldn't be in this pickle now would we? We don't have to agree with everything anyone does but come on, give the guy a break, 4 years from now let's revisit this topic and see where we are, who knows, right? I know very little about everything being discussed but even I know that the stock market was falling apart long before Obama got elected. If we just sit back and say "it's not going to work," then guess what? It's not going to work. If you disagree with things being done don't tell us, tell your government, you can email your state reps and senators, they are the ones who can make things change not arguing with all of us.
Peace, out.......
PS I sent some pics of my pink nails in for an update so you should see them here soon ;-)
texmw
02-18-2009, 12:41 PM
It hasn't been a month yet, let's just wait and see. NOBODY saw all this coming! I'm happy to see that we will live by the Geneva Convention; that Presidential (and Vice Presidential) papers will be public; that someone is addressing the excesses of Wall Street (fat cats, and crooks - Madoff/Sanford); that accountability is being demanded (GM/Chrysler); that more troops are being deployed in Afganistan to fight the real terrorists; and that he can admit when he makes a mistake ("...I screwed up..."). Considering it's only been 30 days, I'm impressed!
And like she said, if you're not happy contact your senators and congressmen, they are the real problem!
No Mas!
arindastormweaver
02-28-2009, 11:23 AM
I thought I'd share our Valentine's Day design. Everyone who saw them when we were out and about thought they were great. They look so much better in real life. These pictures do not do them justice.
You know you have a fingernail fetish when you recognize a lady by just a pic of her fingernails!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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